Really annoying. I can see the point of blocking full-post quotes if the full post is 15 lines or 200 lines. But this was literally one sentence
I recall email users of the forum complaining in the past about quote-free posts (harder to recall context in email) so I wonder if this feature could have a length threshold, and perhaps trim with an ellipsis rather than just cutting the whole quote?
I recall email users of the forum complaining in the past about quote-free posts (harder to recall context in email) so I wonder if this feature could have a length threshold, and perhaps trim with an ellipsis rather than just cutting the whole quote?
As a user via email I recommend to disable automatic removal of the
quote alltogether. It should remain the responsibility of the poster. If
I am resposible for what I write I can also be responsible for what I
quote I feel. Any automatic threshold will not account for that.
The criteria for removing a quote is relatively narrow - the rules are:
Automatically remove quotation if (a) it appears at the start of a post, (b) it is of an entire post, and (c) it is from the immediately preceding post. For details, see Removal of full quotes from direct replies
I understand that it’s a bit annoying to not get a post as you typed it - my feeling is, this rule-set broadly makes sense and feels like it would be the best experience the majority of times? In the cases where it applies, the response being replied to is always the immediately previous thing, both on the web forum and in an email thread context: turning this off will more or less always result in the same text on the screen twice in a row for a quote reply. I imagine this will also prevent threads from becoming recursively nested quote reply trees, as this seems like it would happen if you had several people quote replying in a row?
I’m not gonna hold my opinion here so strongly, it’s really just a usability thing: is it more annoying to sometimes have the same text appearing twice in a row because of a quote reply, or more annoying to have your quote deleted when you explicitly wanted a quote reply even if it was repeated.
(Also worth noting: you can still quote reply to pieces of the previous message, it’s ONLY if it’s the entire post and ONLY if its the first thing in your post and not e.g. mixed in elsewhere for context)
(Also worth noting: you can still quote reply to pieces of the previous message, it’s ONLY if it’s the entire post and ONLY if its the first thing in your post and not e.g. mixed in elsewhere for context)
So if I reply to only this last quoted sentence from your kind and
thoughtfull reply, AND type some random text at the beginning of my
post, this should work… (let me verify in the forum)…
(Also worth noting: you can still quote reply to pieces of the previous message, it’s ONLY if it’s the entire post and ONLY if its the first thing in your post and not e.g. mixed in elsewhere for context)
So if I reply to only this last quoted sentence from your kind and
thoughtfull reply, AND type some random text at the beginning of my
post, this should work… (let me verify in the forum)…
Aha, it seems that quotes from email, which are usually marked with a >
sign, will not be treated as quotes, let’s see what happens if I put a
blank line in between quoted text and my reply …
(Also worth noting: you can still quote reply to pieces of the previous message, it’s ONLY if it’s the entire post and ONLY if its the first thing in your post and not e.g. mixed in elsewhere for context)
So if I reply to only this last quoted sentence from your kind and
thoughtfull reply, AND type some random text at the beginning of my
post, this should work… (let me verify in the forum)…
Aha, it seems that quotes from email, which are usually marked with a >
sign, will not be treated as quotes, let’s see what happens if I put a
blank line in between quoted text and my reply …
That does the trick. There has to be an empty line between email-quoted
text and the actual reply. Let’s now see if a whitespace is accepted at
the very beginning of the reply…
Yes, afaik text email responses are roughly understood as markdown when they are transformed into forum posts. I think markdown expects empty lines between > quote sections? To be honest I’m not TOTALLY sure how its done - but for anyone interacting with the forum via email, I would suggest doing any formatting of replies (quotes, bold, italics, links, etc etc) following standard markdown: it can only improve readability and how things are displayed.
Yes, afaik text email responses are roughly understood as markdown when they are transformed into forum posts. I think markdown expects empty lines between > quote sections? To be honest I’m not TOTALLY sure how its done - but for anyone interacting with the forum via email, I would suggest doing any formatting of replies (quotes, bold, italics, links, etc etc) following standard markdown: it can only improve readability and how things are displayed.
So I can confirm that putting whitespace at the beginning of the reply
and after the quoted lines will make the forum software convert it
sufficiently nice.
